[Meleodic]

I want just to say that we can't forget the vinyl ! So, save it !

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[FeralCode]

... the only problem I didn't find the Save as... option

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[Nephew]

Vinyl is dead and it's about damn time! Now if everyone would just use flacs instead of mp3s we would be set.

[mike]

FeralCode wrote:

... the only problem I didn't find the Save as... option

lol, where's the Save As... option

good one

but seriously we'd all like to think vinyl can last longer, but the fact is that it cant, and you'll have to embrace the digital age to stay ahead in this game.

vinyl R.I.P. - it's just too darn expensive, and not cost effective to produce, ship, and buy. plus it's heavy, it gets scratched, worn out, bent and broken. and it melts.

it's got that analog warmpth, but a lot of producers are making that same feeling now anyway and after awhile you dont even remember it, and you wont even know whats vinyl and whats not. sad but true.

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[mike]

Nephew wrote:

Now if everyone would just use flacs instead of mp3s we would be set.

now that won't really happen, it's like telling everyone to use blu-ray instead of dvd right after they got rid of their VHS. it's not such a huge leap in media for the mainstream users, like tape to CD or VHS to DVD is.

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[Meleodic]

it is so sad, the vinyl is the object which represents all the history of the deejaying. Today we denatures all, it does not have there more nothing concrêt, I put myself questions of until or will go myself?

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[ksandvik]

I think some early day DJs also used tape recorders to play back their original mixes. Last Night a DJ saved my Life (http://www.amazon.com/Last-Night-DJ-Saved-Life/dp/0802136885) might have the stories, but my copy is back home just now.

Anyway, that book is a good one as it shows how the DJ profession has changed over time, and will change into far future.

It's quite Ok to pay vinyl, btw, just feel sad for those doing it as there will be less and less material to find. --Kent

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[Nephew]

O_O

Anyone care to translate?

[ksandvik]

Nephew wrote:

Vinyl is dead and it's about damn time! Now if everyone would just use flacs instead of mp3s we would be set.

It won't happen, the FLAC market is too small to be covered. The bandwidth is there for WAV downloads, anyway. Or AAC 256 like the DRM-free iTunes releases, the quality is so close to lossless quality, so you need an extremely good ear to hear the difference. Even 320k MP3 versus WAV is sometimes tough to differentiate. --Kent

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[Proper Villains]

the crappy thing about MP3s is that there are frequencies missing...REGARDLESS of the encoding bitrate, there are always going to be missing frequencies...CHOP CHOP CHOP SNIP SNIP...it's like getting neutered or something...

only thing is, they're just so damned practical...

ok nvm...everyone uses them...

the average consumer doesn't care about quality anymore (as if we couldn't tell) :p

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[Twizted Nation]

99% of people can't tell the difference between 192 kb/s 320 kb/s and a wav when in a club.
Most clubs have a digital system some have all analog and some have analog and digital.
So I find it a bit interesting when people say bad things about mp3's in a club .Keep in mind that most club goers are out to have and are drinking so I could most likely play a track on a fischer price record player and they wont notice the difference.

The difference lies in what the dj likes to play plain and simple.

[FeralCode]

It is not mp3's fault the average sound of today's production is worse. It is more like everyone is producing today with cheaper softs and equipments (including me) and labels don't spend time and money for proper mastering (not including me). That's part of the digital age / industry, but again, it is not because it is digital, it is because of the artists / labels.

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feral: good point...

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[AureliusScott]

I hate to be a digital noob ( just got off of vinyl a few months ago)...but what the eff is FLAC??

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[Nephew]

AureliusScott wrote:

what the eff is FLAC??

Flac is just another lossless format like wav but takes up half the space.

[DJ KING]

to be honest all cdjing did was open the flood gates for more piracy downloading which is why most artist dont really make money off sales anymore because when one person has it 10 more people have it then 100 more people so you add the cost of that and it really adds up

back in the day when they used records you had no choice but to buy the record and thats why alot of the artist made more of there money before the downloading and burning cd era came into play

not to mention some cdjs have been known to fake sets by playing a premade set and i have seen it done even some big artist that have done it
and vynil never lies when your spinning it old school im mean lets face it if your gonna drop 10 grand on an artist and you caught him playing a premade set youd change your tune of what format should be played

and lets be honest here it looks better to have a record collection rather than a cd book case collection at least that means youve been places to buy your stuff and your supporting the artist by buying it were as a cd you cant even tell

and to those that bitch about vynil being heavy well boo hoo get over it its good excercise stop being so lazy

doc martin carrys his vynils and doesnt complain one bit sure he could use cds but he prefers his vynil i mean lets face it nothing looks sexier than 2 records going together plus with records you can see the groove and look at where your breakdowns are and when you can come in

as far as cds replacing vynil it wont happen vynil has to much respect to be replaced and as long as theres turntabalist supporting old school djing it wont go anywhere not to mention a majority of DNB djs and hardcore use vynil

[Nephew]

Your only argument is that it looks sexy.

Phuck off you proper cunt. Turntables do drift, FACT. No matter how good it is they do drift. With CDJs once you're on they are set.

And I don't know about you, but I've heard tons of horror stories of DJs losing their records on flights and never getting them back, or getting them backed damaged. You can put your CDs in a carry on case and not have to worry about them. Plus CDJs are far more versatile as well, you have many more tricks available to you.

And I hate to tell you, but CDs are replacing vinyl as a lot of stuff is only becoming available in digital format so by not using them you are limiting yourself.

And now is a better time than any to be a producer as you have a better chance of getting your stuff heard and signed> and thus DJing and that is where you make the money, not from 'record sales' (I use the term loosely as you can imagine).

And it you still want the tactile feel of vinyl then go get Serato/Traktor Scratch.

You just sound like some poor schmuck who doesn't want to pay the money to upgrade his set up.

[DJ KING]

hahahah thats got to be the weakest arguement ive heard even a 5 yo would have put up a better response than that

and for you to say my argument is only because it looks sexy shows how many braincells you actually have left to think with cause if you really pay attention to what i said everything is based on orginality and truth

and turntables drift like cdjs skip moron so you have no leg to stand on that one

and as far as that whole shit story you said about money instead of djing i was simply basing it on how it was back then compared to what it is now if you ask any artist they will tell you the same thing djing is not about the money it is about making people groove money is just a reward for hard work

as far as that lil story about people loosing there vynil you can loose cds as easily as you could vynil except you cant replace the rare tracks you found on record as compared to downloading them hint hint

and i hate to burst your bubble but the digital revolution will never replace vynil all it did was slow it down for a bit you of all people should know that

as far as me also being a poor scmuck thats far from the case i just keep it real last time i checked real djs use ALL 12 INCHES

now that your argument has been thrown out the window would you care to try again?


ill be waiting

[Nephew]

DJ KING wrote:

as far as that lil story about people loosing there vynil you can loose cds as easily as you could vynil except you cant replace the rare tracks you found on record as compared to downloading them and turntables drift like cdjs skip moron so you have no leg to stand on that one

Sure I do, anti-skip unless your using cheap CDJs

DJ KING wrote:

and as far as that whole shit story you said about money instead of djing i was simply basing it on how it was back then compared to what it is now if you ask any artist they will tell you the same thing djing is not about the money it is about making people groove money is just a reward for hard work

So now you're saying it not about money? Nice back peddling pal, ever thought of going into politics?. You're the one who mentioned money first, not I.

DJ KING wrote:

as far as that lil story about people loosing there vynil you can loose cds as easily as you could vynil except you cant replace the rare tracks you found on record as compared to downloading them

WOW! Another good reason to use CDs instead of vinyl.

DJ KING wrote:

and i hate to burst your bubble but the digital revolution will never replace vynil all it did was slow it down for a bit

And what are you basing this on? Maybe based on all the record companies closing because of vinyl sales and coming back later as digital labels? Or maybe it's all the clubs upgrading to digital mixers and CDJs while leaving the turntables at the way side? Or maybe it's more people using more and more CDs and the digital only releases?

I do have to agree with people migrating away from CDs, but they are going for the Ableton route and that is still in the digital domain.

Wanna try again? Your argument is based on opinions, mine is based on facts.

[DJ KING]

is that your professional opinion or your dumb ass opinion?

and get this they banned cdjs in australia for playing a fake set and you can look this up too and there are certain countrys where if you dont have vynil then dont bother playing since they have banned cdj performances having said that you can say what you want to say i will read posts but not respond to them

now you must do your own reasearch although i doubt you will but i gotta try anyway

have a nice day

signed a real dj....