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arojectile
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  Software to calculate key Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:27 pm
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I have just recently started mixing in key. The only thing is that i have a huge collection on digital songs and to go through them all one by one to figure out the key of them would take forever... icon_sad.gif icon_sad.gif i can play guitar and keyboard so its easy for me to key them but i just want to take the lazy way out and find a programme that would do it for me because i just couldnt be bothered going through them all and playing along with a keyboard because it will take forever!!! icon_evil.gif So does anyone no any software that will do it for me or will i just have to do it myself??? By the way i am just new to this forum and already love it....sum good mixes everyone. icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif
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Nephew

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   Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:34 pm
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http://www.mixedinkey.com/Homepage.aspx

there's a company who made a software program that scans and labels your mp3s with the key they are in.

I just got it about a month ago, and after scanning ALL my files it's really worth it.
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   Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:32 pm
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why don't you just wing it????

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Nephew

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   Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:29 pm
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MBriscoe wrote:
why don't you just wing it????


Wing it?
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   Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:55 pm
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i think he means mix on the fly, in the moment... like most DJ's worth their salt icon_cool.gif icon_lol.gif

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   Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:19 pm
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Rapid Evolution is free...

www.mixshare.com

Does some other interesting things too. You can drag things from it to other applications like itunes or ableton. and it's free.

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MBriscoe
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   Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:54 pm
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trust your ears, not the key or octave a track is written in....

I'm blessed to have a mind that absorbs anything i hear..... from this, i tend to memorize all parts of a choon...... from the intro, break, bridge, climax and outro...
i hot cue the parts i like..... sample them in my Grabber and continue to do this using various tunes....... the finished product is unveiled w/ your own re-edit.....
don't just play the music: manipulate it icon_smile.gif

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arojectile
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   Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:55 pm
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Cheers 4 the advise. Tried rapid evolution (since it was free)! icon_smile.gif Works sweet. I use numark axis 9s when mixing and they can change the key without changing the pitch so by keying out all my tunes it makes it easier to key change them while mixing so they sound that bit better. icon_cool.gif
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   Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:11 pm
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be sure to try out the renaming feature...

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   Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:20 am
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Yea tried the renaming feature, its very good!! Its got a good genre thing in it 2. icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif
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grinloki
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   Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:30 am
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Best software to find the key of a track: Your eardrums!!!!!! icon_biggrin.gif

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   Thu May 17, 2007 9:49 pm
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Mixed in key is not 100% accurate by any means. Don't waste your money on it. The best way to key your records is by a keyboard, software is only about 60% correct right now. Its better to take the time and do it right rather than have a program do it half ass.
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Nephew

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   Thu May 17, 2007 10:21 pm
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Will McGlone wrote:
Mixed in key is not 100% accurate by any means. Don't waste your money on it. The best way to key your records is by a keyboard, software is only about 60% correct right now. Its better to take the time and do it right rather than have a program do it half ass.


I haven't had any issues with mixed in key. It's about 90% correct, and the ones it gets wrong I just cut out a sample of the actual melody and just have it sample that and it does it's job.

So unless you are going to come over and scan ALL my mp3s I'm going to stick with software doing it's job.
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   Fri May 18, 2007 3:41 am
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I'll agree with Will in success percentage, it's IMO less than 60% whereas the BPM calculation is in fact much better. But Grin you said it, trust only your ears.
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   Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:10 am
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I actually feel that Mixed in Key, is a nice tool...but you should only see it as a guide...more than once i ignore what mixed in key says , and use songs that are according to the program totally of key...
But it is a nice help indeed, not more than that
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jono_h
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   Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:49 am
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im of "use your ears" school as well.

If you must use one of these then RE is better imo simply because its free.
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simon9191
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   Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:22 am
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Software telling me this tune doesnt go with this tune "why i oughta" *shake fist

The next step to this software is automix icon_confused.gif

If it feels good then its probably was worth it!
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Novus
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   Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:37 pm
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Well, I conned my music theory teacher into helping me memorize the system by which you discern the key of a song. So the other day I started cataloging key signatures of my collection manually. This is gonna be a long process.

So, whats happening here is that I've got some 500 current-use songs that I'm gonna be cataloging, and then subsequently sorting, by key. How I sort them, and the rules of the Circle of 5ths, will dictate in many cases which records I choose to play. This is because I have determined and labeled, in advance, which songs will be non-dissonant(aka consonant) when played together - in effect, which ones go together. This is all done by ear with a little help of a pen & paper to keep track of notes I'm hearing or not hearing and then using some music theory 'rules'.

Once that is complete, I will have dictated in advance a large majority of my mixing patterns. But I'll have done it by ear, listening to the notes with my own ears, no software tools, so that counts for deciding according to 'how it feels,' yes?
For the sake of pointing out the consistency here, there is, for instance, zero chance that two competing basslines or chords will 'go together' if they do not follow these music theory rules. It's just not reasonably open to interpretation.

So, this software uses the same set of logic I will be using 'by ear.' The end effect for me versus someone using the software is the same. The only difference is that I did a little bit of recent music theory study, and had the desire to sit down to do some detective/logic work with a pencil & paper. There's no other difference between my process and a software user. I'd say the only relevant difference between random Joe Blow off the street is that I had the desire to take the time and do it.

Like music theory, or first hand experience, this software is a tool for the people who have the interest and drive to play other peoples' records in front of a crowd, or to record a set to distribute for other's listening pleasure.

Theres some monkeys who use sticks which they dip into an ant hill to gather and eat them easier. Then theres some who have a more difficult time of it by using their hands, and it's not as effective either.
I don't know about you, but I have no problems with using sticks to eat my ants.

This traditionalism is so pesky. If you want a horn to toot, focus on MAKING music.
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   Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:08 am
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Novus is quickly becoming my favorite user on the board
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   Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:38 pm
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High five!
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